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I would welcome discussion on cult mind control in general on insidious cults that morph and change with the times on one cult in particular, used to be known as Lifewave, now hides behind innocuous...

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Hi again   Yes, I agree with your point about trust and the abuse of trust. We trusted that those who taught us were honest and sincere, we accepted them as our guides, we believed that they...

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Hiyou said it all so well. Your words express so much better than I could what is involved in an experience of disillusionment. And surely most of the people involved in Lifewave were genuinely honest...

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hiiiiiiiiii have met sadguru and  he has said me weldone..in 2005 TOO, THOUGH HE WILL NOT RECOGNIZE ME TODAY OR NOT REMEMBER THE EVENT.. there is no doubt about the murder of his wife and his escape...

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How did it all come to an end? How did people like you cope with it after having invested so much in Lifewave? How did it all come to an end? For many years John had been playing off people against...

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Hi iamthat,your reaction to the big revelation is really interesting. So some of you basically achieved more after the Yarr era had ended than during that time. And I am very glad to hear that most...

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and yet....... I do think there were some scars that took a long time to heal, the betrayal of trust and broken promises, the constant luring with a carrot on a stick, and the failure to truly...

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 He still lives by the neurotic need to have complete control over states of so-called consciousness so people who are under his spell completely believe that it is all down to him, well well..  That...

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You are enlightened when you come to the realization you don't need anyone.

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Hi, I was interested to read about these experiences of JY teachings, is anyone still posting about this? Thanks

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A very strange and interesting time betrayal, relief, a lot of sorrow, and feeling a bit foolish. still can’t live it in the past, although i wouldn’t mind meeting up with.....perhaps not.    

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And what were your experiences of the meditation?

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I met John Yarr twice. In Leeds in the 1980s. This was after the Lifewave cult split up. I wasn't impressed with him. I had been part of Lifewave and I had been initiated. It was said that he went to...

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Hi everybody.I'm new on this forum, doing some research on John Yarr, lifewave, guruism etcIs there any link between that new Lifewave businesshttp://www.lifewave.comand John Yarr and Co ?Some former...

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Hi there, I was very interested in reading your objective view of a situation, that which I have absolutely no experience of, but have heard and have seen the resulting anguish that was caused by what...

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I'm not sure if anguish describes our feelings when Lifewave ended in 1986. Perhaps shock, relief and confusion are more accurate terms, but after the initial shock and confusion there was mainly...

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I'm posting this to thank everyone I've spoken to on this forum about the topic being discussed - it's helped me greatly, thank you all so much.I also wanted to say to Shazzasan that with the greatest...

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So JY is still claiming to be the only way to enlightenment? Hmmm. It seems to be all about control.And his "adepts" fondly believe they have attained the ultimate? Hmmm. Perhaps they should question...

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Yes, I too was a member back in the 1980s and I can confirm that JY didn't own the Path of light and sound although made various claims to this effect. Perhaps with age has come some wisdom but if...

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Note   An article worth contemplatingSunday Times October 4th 2009about the glitterati rallying to protect the name of Polanski.."The instinctive solidarity within the super-successful castes is quite...

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